31 Authors, 1 Model of a Writers’ Cooperative: Author Tawny Stokes on the Bandit Creek Series
By Jan O'Hara | May 21, 2012 |
Over the past year, there’s been a self-publishing experiment taking place in the Calgary branch of the Romance Writers of America. (CARWA, members of which are known under the apt moniker “Carwackians.”) I’ve been an interested observer. Now that the Bandit Creek Series has matured, and can provide lessons and data, CaRWA’s third-time president joins me for a candid conversation.
Tawny Stokes, aka Vivi Anna, has been writing since 2002. She began by publishing short stories for men’s magazines before moving on to write novels. In 2005, within a period of one week, she landed her first agent and New York publisher. Since then, she’s published close to 17 books and novellas for Harlequin, Kensington and Avon in a variety of genres: paranormal romance, urban fantasy, sci-fi, and young adult.
She’s self-published 9 projects, only 3 of which were formerly through epublishers.
Tempted to call her a slacker? Then you should know Tawny has deep interests in TV-script-writing. She has a TV pilot in development with Bogner Entertainment, and among other awards, she finaled in both the Austin Film Festival and Slamdance Film Festival with her adapted TV pilot, Occult Crime Unit. You might know her as one of the co-founders of the popular #TVwriterchat on Twitter.
Jan: Set the stage for us, Tawny. Can you describe the scene and catalyst which led to the cooperative’s formation?
Tawny: It was after our chapter general meeting. Jade Buchanan and I were giving a talk on the different ways to publish, discussing epublishing and self-publishing. When I’m passionate about something, I get a wee bit animated and that day was no exception. I was explaining about one of the cool things about self-publishing – that an author could write a book with a friend, another author, or even a huge group of authors. I pointed to someone in the crowd and said, “I could write a book with you.” Then I looked at everyone and said, “I could write a book with all of you.” That’s when I saw the spark in those 20 sets of eyes. The mood was instantly electric.
Then I said, “Let’s do it. Let’s write a connected book series together.”
When the brainstorming started, it was amazing. I’d never felt creative energy like that before. It made me even more excited. But I remember the next day I emailed DL Snow and said, “What the hell did we just do?”
Can you give us an idea of the baseline level of expertise within the “Banditos?”
Initially at the meeting we had about 20 people, and I ended up emailing another 10 people affiliated with CARWA to see if they wanted in on the idea. After everyone chimed in, we ended up with 31 authors and 32 stories, because I was going to write the first and the last.
There are 4 traditionally published authors involved, with a combined total of 59 traditionally published books. Three previously epublished authors, with combined total of 36 books. One author is an established playwright, and another has sold several short stories and done several articles for the Romance Writers Report. I was the only one self-published at the time. The remaining authors were previously unpublished in any format.
Can you elaborate on the scope of the project? Beyond their actual manuscript, what would any one member be expected to contribute?
We did up a very detailed schedule, chronicling every step of the process. Every member was expected to:
- finish their story on time, a month and half before release date
- send it to their beta readers – the next two people behind them in the schedule
- do the edits, then send it to the formatter. (We initially had one person doing this, but have since changed that and basically everyone has learned how to do their own formatting.)
- They needed to have their excerpt and Carla Roma interview to the series’ webmistress two weeks in advance. Oh, and they all needed to work with our cover designer to create their cover, which has a specific design.
Beyond that, everyone is expected to support the authors in the group by purchasing the books, tweeting, and Facebooking at the time of release. We have a release party every two weeks, on our Facebook fan page. Not everyone participates, but we advocate that they do.
As for costs, everyone is responsible for paying for their own covers. We cut other costs by having an in-house formatter and then everyone learning it themselves, and we used each other for editing. We have 31 authors. That’s a lot of good eyes, catching mistakes and whatnot.
For an endeavor like this to be effective, I see the need to establish and maintain a cohesive vision. Let’s talk practicalities. What measures turned out to be helpful? Did anything prove disappointing?
Having a detailed schedule was invaluable, especially having to deal with 31 authors who all have other books they are working on and lives outside of writing.
Having one cover designer doing all the covers was perfect; that way, all the covers look the same, have the same feel. Plus, we were able to work out a discount deal due to the amount of covers. So that saved everyone money.
We wrote a series bible and created detailed town maps. That was very helpful for everyone, so they could refer to it when needed without having to email individual people about this and that.
Our Yahoo loop is also invaluable to discuss every aspect of the project. And we’ve had a group in-person meeting, which was awesome, and resparked everyone’s creative fires. We plan on having another soon, to go over marketing plans. Everything we’ve done was helpful. I can’t think of anything that was disappointing.
The Bandit Creek Series contains a mixture of lengths and a mixture of genres, ranging from horror, to romance, to YA and MG. Some novellas were set in the present, others in the past. The one commonality to your stories is the setting – a fictitious town in Montana. Did that work to your advantage or disadvantage?
Having the town connecting the stories was fantastic. It made it fun to write and, I think, fun to read.
The one thing I wouldn’t do again was have a mixture of genres. That was a mistake. If we had done them all contemp romance or even a mix of contemp and historical I think it would’ve worked better, but a mixture just doesn’t work. Because a lot of readers have preferred genres that they read. I know I do. It will be a rare thing for me to read an adult contemporary or historical novel. We lost some cohesiveness when we decided to do that.
At the time, I just didn’t want to limit people to what they could write. I didn’t want to implement strict guidelines, like publishers would do. This was indie pubbing and I wanted it to be INDIE, giving everyone the choice to write what they felt most comfortable writing. If we had limited it to one genre, I don’t believe we would have had the authors participating like we have.
This was definitely an experiment. And it was both fun and frustrating, but I wouldn’t have done too much differently. This project got writers in this chapter WRITING, and not only that, but they each experienced deadlines and they’ve accomplished something. That’s saying a lot. I personally think that CARWA is one of the most active and successful chapters out there. We have 50 members and I’d say close to 35 of them are writing every day and finishing projects and actively seeking publication – either submitting to agents/editors, pursuing epublishing, or self-publishing them on their own.
I am proud of every single member in this chapter.
If any of our readers contemplate a similar project, what would you tell them?
- Experiment.
- Have a detailed schedule and plan.
- Have a committee overseeing everything.
- Write in the same genre.
- Have fun with it.
Have you noticed benefits to your chapter beyond a given book’s sales?
Oh, my, the benefits have been spectacular. Because of this venture, almost every member of CARWA is on social media, blogging, tweeting, Facebooking like there is no tomorrow. Almost every single member is actively writing and pursuing publication in one form or another. They have all learned the value of marketing, all learned what goes into making a good book, with the editing and formatting and beta reading. They know the value of a great cover.
The support levels in this group have reached epic proportions. We are united as one, helping each other reach individual goals. The excitement on our loop and at meetings is unbelievable. It energizes me every day.
And beyond that, because of this project, some members have taken their careers by the balls and done amazing things. Several members have gone on to self-publish other titles, and are reaching great success. Steena Holmes is one such member. She’s pushed and worked and she’s now reaping the rewards. And I see several other members reaching that kind of success soon.
Tawny, is there a success story you can share in terms of sales?
Well, we’ve all had modest sales. I, for one, haven’t seen tons of sales, despite my big backlist. DL Snow’s Siren’s Song had 43000 downloads when she put it up for free on the KDP select program. When it came off, she had a lot of sales, over 2500. The next month she had less but it was still around 600, and now it has settled into about 75 a month. I, as well as another author, saw a big uptick in sales during that time. I sold well over 100. But since then it has dwindled back down again. I’d say the average amount of books being sold is 30-40 a month.
But we weren’t expecting huge sales. And now some of the authors are writing more books that will be connected to the story they did in Bandit Creek. I know I am going to be writing a series of thrillers using Kirsten Morgan, my heroine from my Bandit Creek book Lost.
Would you do it again?
Yes, but I wouldn’t do it on such a large scale. Now that we’re all a bit more savvy, I’d say you’re going to see many different collaborations coming out of this group. And I for one am beyond excited about the future of publishing and its possibilities.
Readers, that’s the end of the formal interview, but feel free to check out the Bandit Creek Series website and Facebook page. Tawny Stokes can be found on her website, on Twitter, or in her @authorViviAnna identity here.
If you have questions, take them to the comment section below. Tawny will do her best to respond.
Tawny,
Thanks for sharing your experience and insights into this cooperative project. It was timely for me because my writer’s group has just published an anthology of short stories written by 13 of its members. We ran into the same challenges as your group and implemented many of the same measures. We appointed a committee and selected a chair to lead the project. We met regularly and made editorial assignments. We designated a person to assemble the MS and another to format it for the Kindle. One of our members designed the cover (we only had one cover to design, thankfully). We decided all the proceeds would go to charity. An attorney in our group hooked us up with a spinal cord research foundation. It was an inspiring team effort. One takeaway is that it took a longer than anyone thought it would (more than a year), but it was well worth the time and effort. Thanks, Jan and Tawny, for this great post.
Hi CG! Thanks for commenting and good luck on the anthology!! I hope it sells a million and a very good idea to hook up with a charity. A win-win for everyone.
I wish it had taken us a year to put together, but we came up with the idea in June, fine tuned it, and the first book (mine) came out in September. LOL
I’m not one for patience. :-)
What a cool, and hugely ambitious, undertaking! I’m glad that most everything worked well in the end. Thanks, Jan and Tawny, for sharing the tale of the tales.
thanks Therese for commenting. :-)
Yes, ambitious and courageous are the words that come to my mind. I can see that you will be applying the lessons learned to another project and we look forward to hearing all about that one once completed. You are a brave, if impetuous, woman. Huzzah!
Hey Alex, thanks for compliments.
Brave, ah, don’t know about that one…impetuous, yup I’ll own up to that one. LOL
Maybe also crazy, insane, impatient…
It’s been an interesting ride and I’m one of those who went back to writing because of this project. I think we’ve all learned a lot about the business, the realities of being a writer and how to organize a project.
and yes, the Calgary chapter rocks!!! our yahoo group alone is worth the price of membership. http://www.calgaryrwa.com
Yeah Louise! You have no idea how much you returning to writing and to us made me so happy.
And now you’re on fire. I couldn’t be happier, or prouder of you!
I’m another who had stopped writing until the Bandit Creek project came up. I can’t begin to list all the things I’ve learned and accomplished since that June meeting. I started and finished my BC novella, revised it (a step I hadn’t gotten around to on two previous MS), formatted it, worked on my cover design, studied PR strategies and that’s just the tip of the iceburg. I’m already working on an sweet romance anthology with Roxy Buroughs that we hope to release in the next month or so. This been a wild and exciting ride and we all thank Tawny for her impulsiveness, insanity, or whatever it was, that led her to round us up and launch the Bandit Creek Books project.
It’s an interesting template. This ties in well with Porter Anderson’s post a few months ago about writers’ co-ops. The continuity of the covers is a brilliant touch for creating marketing synergy. There are so many ways forward these days, and although writing is mostly a solitary process, we never really need to go it alone.
So true Vaughn, we can go on this crazy ride together.
This project gave me the notion that I can bond together with different authors and do projects together. I put together a YA antho with fellow awesome authors Amanda Brice, and am working on a super sekret project right now with two authors, and we are going to write a book together.
We authors have so many choices now. It’s never been more exciting to be a writer than right now!
Wow, that’s pretty cool. I guess the down side is, since there are so many writers in the project, you know that there will most likely be a couple of stories that are weak, or stories that you just don’t like. But they still will have to go in the book anyway since you agreed to it. I think a smaller project with 6-8 of your author buddies would be more manageable. It would be easier to control quality too. I do know that would mean less exposure since you there would be less people marketing it. I really like the idea, though.
that’s true Rich. That was one thing I didn’t want to address, because personally writing is completely subjective. What I don’t like, someone else might. So we didn’t want to go there.
It just made me so happy to see writers that had NEVER finished a story before, do this, finish, put it out there (another thing they’d never done before) have someone read it and edit it, do the edits, hit deadlines, create a cover, have a book launch and be brave enough to publish it.
To me, to see that, to experience the joy, was worth everything we did, every headache and frustrating moment.
But yes, I agree, if I do this again, which I know I will, it will be with a smaller group.
I did do this with a smaller group years ago, as Vivi Anna, we had two anthologies published by Avon, the Alluring Tales. It was awesome. And both those anthos continued to sell really well. :-)
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What a great experience this must have been for everyone involved. Self-publishing is something that is in the back of nearly every writer’s mind these days – for one reason or another. The prospect seems overwhelming sometimes. So what a great opportunity to venture into self-publishing collaboratively. I can see so many benefits to a project like that. But I can also imagine it being pretty exhausting for the team entrusted with planning it.
Exhausting is right Roxanne!! LOL
thanks for commenting.
I love hearing/reading about positive experiences in this business!
Thanks Kathryn, for coming by and commenting. :-)
Great interview, Jan.
As a former Calgarian, I really enjoyed reading about the chapter’s cooperative spirit. What an interesting, exciting and ambitious project.
Thanks for telling us about it, Tawny!
Sheri
Hi Sheri, a former Calgarian hey? Well, come on back and we can hang out. :-)
I’ve also been privileged to be a part of the Bandit Creek collective. It has been the most amazing hands-on learning experience EVER. And, I’ve got to say, only Tawny Stokes could put together over 30 writers to create a series like this.
Awwwwww, Suzanne, that’s so nice to say.
I’m so happy that you did this project with me. :-)
Thanks for coming and commenting, everyone. It’s been an interesting project to watch. I agree with Suzanne — a lot of hands-on learning.
And Tawny, as far as I’m concerned, you’re the Little Writer Who Could, Canadian-style.
Don’t have much to add, but I truly loved hearing about this experiment, and I so respect her attitude in terms of appreciating what they learned and enjoying the experience. Thank you for sharing this with us!
I’ve met Tawny briefly at a few local writing events, and had no idea about this innovative undertaking. I’ve seen her spirit and energy first hand though, so I am not surprised to see her champion a project like this.
Thanks for the great interview!
Angela Ackerman
Ah, you have firsthand knowledge of the Stokes fortitude. ;)
Glad you enjoyed it, Angela.